Depaul drops #17 Nova 84-76...

[rewalters]

That ought to help out the old RPI!

13-0 is getting better and better each day!

[leshardin]

I guess we were thinking the same thing

[rewalters]

I guess we were thinking the same thing

Great minds think alike I guess.

[USCrebel]

It has actually dropped to 18.

[oxpatchreb]

It has actually dropped to 18.

Can someone explain why?

[USCrebel]

It has actually dropped to 18.

Can someone explain why?

The RPI is 50% our record, 25% the average of our opponent's record, and 25% the record of our opponent's opponents. So, even though DePaul beat Villanova, their opponents average record was 6-4.

1.000(.50)+600(.25)+.41(.25)
.500+.150+.100=.750

And that is just for DePaul. Other teams we played are even worse. If we sweep at home and get half our road games we should end up with about a 26 or 27th place RPI.

[oxpatchreb]

It has actually dropped to 18.

Can someone explain why?

The RPI is 50% our record, 25% the average of our opponent's record, and 25% the record of our opponent's opponents. So, even though DePaul beat Villanova, their opponents average record was 6-4.

1.000(.50)+600(.25)+.41(.25)
.500+.150+.100=.750

And that is just for DePaul. Other teams we played are even worse. If we sweep at home and get half our road games we should end up with about a 26 or 27th place RPI.

Okay, the math makes sense. And I do understand how we arrive at the RPI. But why would it drop when a team we've beaten, beats another very good team? It seems as though it should go UP when a team we've beaten, beats another team with a good record.

P.S. I know that took alot of stat investigation, thanks!!!

[done]

Maybe it is a kind of circular reasoning. Because DePaul beats Villanova, Villanova's RPI goes down, which makes DePaul's schedule in fact weaker, which brings down the value of our victory over DePaul even though DePaul beat a higher ranked team than us. Maybe if Depaul lost to Villanova, their strength of schedule would increase which might make our victory over DePaul stronger, so perhaps we would have been better off if DePaul had actually lost the game....Okay now I have a headache. I better go get some of that Tylenol I brought back from Canada with the codeine in it

Now I know who develops the RPI. It MUST be the Treasury Department because this sounds an awful lot like the Income Tax Code and Regulations! 8)

[oxpatchreb]

Maybe it is a kind of circular reasoning. Because DePaul beats Villanova, Villanova's RPI goes down, which makes DePaul's schedule in fact weaker, which brings down the value of our victory over DePaul even though DePaul beat a higher ranked team than us. Maybe if Depaul lost to Villanova, their strength of schedule would increase which might make our victory over DePaul stronger, so perhaps we would have been better off if DePaul had actually lost the game....Okay now I have a headache. I better go get some of that Tylenol I brought back from Canada with the codeine in it

Now I know who develops the RPI. It MUST be the Treasury Department because this sounds an awful lot like the Income Tax Code and Regulations! 8)

HAHAHAHA!!!! My head is also now mush...... but I asked for it!!!

Yeah, I guess that makes sense. In a "VooDoo economics" type of way.

[USCrebel]

Can someone explain why?

The RPI is 50% our record, 25% the average of our opponent's record, and 25% the record of our opponent's opponents. So, even though DePaul beat Villanova, their opponents average record was 6-4.

1.000(.50)+600(.25)+.41(.25)
.500+.150+.100=.750

And that is just for DePaul. Other teams we played are even worse. If we sweep at home and get half our road games we should end up with about a 26 or 27th place RPI.

Okay, the math makes sense. And I do understand how we arrive at the RPI. But why would it drop when a team we've beaten, beats another very good team? It seems as though it should go UP when a team we've beaten, beats another team with a good record.

P.S. I know that took alot of stat investigation, thanks!!!

Remember is the average W/L of EVERY team we play and EVERY team they play. Things begin to stabilize once conference play begins because the pool of teams are more easily compared.